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Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

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Welcome to the latest Mobile Insider review. This time, @Kalak and @Annirowe are putting the Sony Xperia Z3 through its paces.

 

The Z3 is the latest phone from Sony, boasting:

 

  • Waterproof to 1.5m for up to 30 minutes in freshwater
  • 20.7 megapixel camera for stunning 4K video
  • 5.2 inch Full HD 1080p Triluminos™ display
  • Long life battery lasts even longer with Sony STAMINA Mode

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bkbooth11
Level 2: Rookie

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

Hi, I've got two big questions about the Xperia Z3...

 

Firstly, how does the camera perform in practice? Much was made of the camera in the Xperia Z1 (my current phone), but I was honestly underwhelmed by it. Despite all the megapixels and apparently high quality lens, it was easily outperformed by other flagship phones at the time.

 

Secondly, how long does the battery last with normal use?

dazzman55
Level 2: Rookie

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

Camera is very important I me. I have small kids and need a camera that is fast and easy to use. The iphone cameras have been great in that regard but I am finding the megapixels a little low for 2014. How is the camera performance on the Z3?
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Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

We recently had the pleasure of testing the Z3 in the office here at Telstra Digital so I thought I would start of the discussion by sharing my impression of the phone.

 

I must admit I've always been an Apple girl and never had an Android. I love the aesthetic appeal of Apple products and considered myself too used to their features and system to ever switch to an Android.

 

Enter Sony Z3. I was surprised at how much I liked it

 

The Pros

  • Suuuuper easy to set up. As I have a gmail address (doesnt everyone?) my contacts were imported pronto
  • Loved that it already had apps installed so I could start using it straight away
  • Display was super crisp. Noticeably so
  • Photos were a.m.a.z.i.n.g - for a Insta addict like me this is a big positive. Loved the different features in camera mode were easily accessible 

The Cons

  • Lack of a home button jarred me a little at first
  • I couldn't work out how to take photos of the screen. After looking it up, I found it clucky.
  • I found it a bit large to handle - as I'm used to the iPhone I would probably be more comfortable with the Compact

All in all, it's a great phone and I was very impressed. Maybe enough to nudge me over the edge of converting from my iPhone. Now I'm keen to trail the other Androids out there - any suggestions for me for comparisons sake?

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Level 23: Superhero

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

Hi Guys, I'm also interested in the photo abilities of this unit.

 

I'm always taking selfies and of course want to look at my best for my fans, don't want any pink spots or anything like that, so let's see your selfies and how they shape up against mine on my Samsung Galaxy Note 1.

 

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beetle84
Level 15: Special Agent

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

@ katroberts 2 inch display and 7 mp camera? its not an iphone, where do they find you guys?
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Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

copy and paste fail - thanks for pointing out, thats been fixed

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beetle84
Level 15: Special Agent

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

I have a z2, recently updated with the same features as a z3, what does the z3 have that the z2 doesnt? (Honest question, im curious)
Level 23: Superhero

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

As soon as I've received my device I'll be in and answering any and all (reasonable) questions that are posted here, so please keep them coming Smiley Happy
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beetle84
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Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

Define reasonable... @Kalak
Level 23: Superhero

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review


@beetle84 wrote:
Define reasonable... @Kalak

Yes I agree, define reasonable?

 

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Level 23: Superhero

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

For example, if someone was to ask how it performs when at the peak of Everest, or how it fairs after a 300ft drop onto concrete, then I would not answer those.

Common sense. However this is the internet, so if I was to have put any and all questions, then there would be someone (likely you Jeff) who would take it too far Smiley Wink

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Level 23: Superhero

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

Now I would never do that, BUT, I am looking forward to the underwater shots or the selfies in the shower when you test the waterproofing of the phone.... Smiley Surprised Smiley Wink Smiley Very Happy

 

 

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Mickb83
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Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

I'm also a Z2 user, having upgraded from a Galaxy S3 4G I'm very happy. But now I see the Z3 and it's even more advanced features I'm having early adopters remorse lol.

I'd be keen to know how the real world battery life stacks up. I'm currently getting around 18hrs battery life with between 2-3hrs screen on time. This is whilst on mobile data all day between 7:30am and 5:30pm then wifi when at home. I live and work in a 4G area but turn it off because it drains the battery so much. I'd be interested to know if 4G has as great an impact on battery as it does to the Z2.
Annirowe
Level 5: Eagle Eye

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

So its been almost 24hrs since I first recieved the device... Its only early days and im still getting my head around the Android world, but im slowely getting there. 

 

I thought I would just quickly jot down some initial thoughts of the device.. Once I have a few days I will then start making detailed comparisons of Camera etc.. 

 

Here is my disclaimer... I am an Apple Fanboy.. No doubt.. Its not just a follow the leader thing.. I spent a good 15 years as a Microsoft person.. I got to a point where I was fed up with the constant repairs, and support for those computers.. So I switched to Mac and it all went from there.. So this is my first Non iPhone since the first one was released here. In saying all of that however, I am open minded.. I do appreciate a good quality product regardless of brand. So for these future discussions, lets look at it that Im an apple fan looking for a reason to change to something new. 

 

This may be a bit of a timeline of my thoughts but probably the best way at this point to give my opinion. 

 

- Packaging: Yes we throw it away in the end, and yes, Kat had already played with it before I got my hands on it, but you really see from the outset how far behind these other manufacturers are against Apple. With an iPhone, the packaging is firm, its solid, the box is nearly always in a perfect shape. The Sony.. It just felt cheap.. The box was starting to stretch, there was no excitement about opening the box. And when I got inside it was packaging.. nothing clever.. 

 

Hardware: There is no doubting that this phone is pretty sexy. It feels solid. Its nice to hold. Coming from an iPhone 5 its very different to hold naturally.. trying to find the centre point of weight is different.. That place where you can rest your phone and type without needing to actually hold it.  Im constantly concerned im going to drop it but thats life with a bigger phone I guess. 

Inserting the Sim Card was dissapointing. Once you find out where the tray is on an iPhone, its pretty simple.. But on the Sony i was concerned I was about to break it.. Sticking something into the phone to then try and hook the tray to pull it out was all a bit concerning for me. 

 

The Software: There is no doubting with the Android software, there are so many potentials for greatness. You can do a lot more background activity work and still have a good idea of whats going on. And there is also no doubting this phone comes stacked with Software for you to achieve your goals. But this is I believe Androids biggest fall down. There is SO MUCH software on it. And multiple things to do the same thing. Why?? This is what I believe really sets iOS aside from the start.. It comes with the basics, and then as your knowledge and needs expand, then you can expand through the app store. But with Android... its basically here is everything.. now go learn it.. For me, who without blowing my own trumpet, generally knows whats going on, even this blew my mind and gave me a headache. Giving this to someone who wasnt all that Savy, I think would make them hate their phone, and make them question there own intelligence. Its way too much too soon! Just to note I switched to the Google now Launcher over Sony's. It just made things a bit simpler to start with and also gave me "Ok Google" features. 

 

Water Proofing: No doubting its a cool and sometimes handy feature. I took it n the shower last night.. I will admit to that.. thinking it would be handy to skip songs.. How quickly i learnt this wasnt as easy as I had thought.. You see the phone sees water droplets as finger presses. So all hell broke loose when the water starting hitting the screen! Turning teh screen off fixed that issue, so I could still have the music playing.. but yeah.. my suggestion is probably not attempt to text people in the shower! In the pool will hopefully be a different situation as Im expecting the full body of water to have a different effect.. Just waiting on a warm day to try that out but!

 

I still have a lot to play with and discuss..   I did try out the PS4 remote play.. I will hold judgement on that for a bit.. I was struggling with WIfi last night so Im going to try and tinker that before I comment again.

 

If yo have any questions or requests let me know and I will give them a crack for you. 

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Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

Thanks for the great start @Annirowe !

 

Interesting that you weren't too impressed with all the software that came with the phone - I actually really liked that aspect as I felt like it took the thinking out of setting up. I guess it depends how lazy/skilled you are in personalising your apps.

 

Looking forward to seeing some snaps - have you played with the camera yet?

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Tech-nut
Level 2: Rookie

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

How doors it feel in the hand?
How does it take action shots (eg sorts)?
What is the battery life like in real world use?
How is the signal quality cbd vs country?
What bloat ware is pre installed and how much of the internal memory is leftover for the user?

Thanks in advance guys.
Annirowe
Level 5: Eagle Eye

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

How doors it feel in the hand? NIce... Like I said getting used to a bigger device, but the weight is about right.


How does it take action shots (eg sorts)? Havent really got into the camera yet.. The tests i did last night were low light and werent the best.. but I willcome back to later.


What is the battery life like in real world use? Fully charged at 6am, now at 72%


How is the signal quality cbd vs country? Im in the suburbs of Melbourne.. My house sits in a weird pocket.. My iphone only has 1 - 2 bars.. Same for this phone. 


What bloat ware is pre installed and how much of the internal memory is leftover for the user?I think I saw about 9GB yesterday before I started playing around... There is Sony's Launcher.. Then their walkman app, Navigon Navigator, AVG, Kobo, Officesuite, plus a few other sony software packages.. 

Norton_San
Level 3: Gumshoe

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

Well I hope Telstra wasn't hoping for a positive review when they gave you the phone haha.

 

I have a challenge for your next review: try starting a paragraph without the words "No doubting". No doubting you will struggle Smiley Wink

Annirowe
Level 5: Eagle Eye

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

I'm having doubts I will struggle!!!!

Wow! Maybe I should proof read next time!
Level 23: Superhero

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

I only received my device this morning, so these are my first impressions and over the next few weeks I'll be back with more in-depth answers to questions.

 

I should also start by saying that for a number of year I've been in the iOS ecosystem. I have been using a Windows Phone 8 device for the past couple of weeks to get an idea of the other major OS as well.

 

As has already been stated, the box does feel a little bit flimsy, but in the end you want to get the device out and start playing with it more than admiring the packaging it comes in.

 

Box Outside:

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The Z3 includes more pamhplets than any other phone I've ever owned:

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It comes with a charger, cable, headphones and a USB to Micro-USB adaptor, the pamphlets and a postage paid bag to recycle your old phone.

 

The charging port is on the left hand side behind a flap, the same side as the magnetic charging connector. It's easy to get to but personally I find side-mounted charging ports to be less comfortable if you happen to be using the phone while it's on charge.

 

I put the phone on charge and headed down to my local Telstra store to perform a SIM swap onto a Nano SIM. The plastic SIM tray doesn't hold the SIM tightly and you have to turn the phone upside down to orientate it correctly to insert the tray. This took me a few goes because the SIM kept popping out as I tried to insert the tray and jamming. Make sure you have someone with nails nearby to help.

 

I have read people on the internet complaining that the water/dust covers over the various ports stick out of the side of the handset. I can say that this isn't the case with mine. The power/wake button, volume rocker and hardware camera button (needed for underwater shooting) do, by necessity, stick out a small amount though on the right-hand side.

 

The phone comes with 16GB of overall storage, and out of the box you have around 10GB of that free. 

 

As for bloatware, it does come with over 60 apps already installed on the device! A lot of these appear to be Sony specific apps, such as their own Walkman music app. Some are Google apps, others are Sony apps. The downside to this being you have to use both Google Play and the Experia Update Centre to keep your apps up-to-date.

 

Some of the pre-loaded app highlights for me are:

 

  • An Xperia branded version of Navigon by Garmin with offline map downloads which is good if you don't already have a GPS app on your phone. I've previously been using MetroView on iOS (also available on Android).
  • Xperia Lounge - This has various offer and information regarding Xperia handsets. The most interesting current offer (until Jan 2015) is a coupon code to add the full first season of the TV show The Blacklist (SD & HD) to your Sony Media collection - to keep. However this lives in the Videos Unlimited app (or you can download to your computer via the website), once again meaning you need Google Play Movies and this app to keep across all your content.
  • TrackID - Shazaam clone. I like how when identifying a song it linked in with Spotify to offer to play it straight away.

I had no issues transferring my contacts onto the phone. I was able to back them up from my iPhone to Google/GMAIL and download them to my phone with minimal fuss, and with the link to Facebook it can also download all your Facebook contacts.

 

I then cleared out the various homescreens and began downloading apps that are important to me: Clash of Clans, Facebook/Messenger, Viber, Spotify, Telstra 24x7, Skype, Banking and Government apps, and various games. The Telstra billing option (as a prepaid customer) is a great boon as I am now able to get double value from my recharge. As a mobile service, and also to purchase content via the Z3, though this isn't specific to this device.

 

I think it's safe to say that I'm addicted to widgets! I have Hangouts, Facebook, TrackID, Spotify, Telstra 24x7, and Weather already and I am loving it. I never really understood what I was missing until now. Having access to information and app controls without even having to change into an app is fantastic and something that iOS is lacking even to this day.

 

So far all the apps have been snappy in their responsiveness and there doesn't appear to be any lag when changing between screens in the OS itself. I am enjoying how things are made simple, for example when a message comes through on Viber it pops up over what I was doing, where I am able to type and send a response without ever changing away from what I was doing.

 

I live in central QLD, and even though my iPhone would have no issues obtaining 3 bars+ of signal, the Z3 has been sitting at 1 bar all day. I am lucky enough that we have access to 4G at home, however I think the overall signal strength may be impacting the data throughput.

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I'll perform some more tests during the review period in various locations.

 

I know there are a lot of questions surrounding battery life and the camera. I'm going to give it a few cycles before I really comment on the battery life, especially as day one has a lot more usage than normal. With regards to the camera, I am going to be heading out tomorrow and I'll take a variety of shots with both this and my old iPhone 5 to compare.

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Aegnor
Level 5: Eagle Eye

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

Great work guys. Kalek in particular answered several of my questions with his review post.

Are any of the Sony apps any good, or are you going to be downloading third party apps to use instead? Sounds like a lot of potentially unwanted stuff on your phone. In particular, would be interested in how their media consumption type apps work.

Looking forward to seeing how you go with the camera. In particular, whether it's easy to use and fast in the draw. Not as interested in whether I can take a beautiful macro shot of a flower as I am of whether it will let me take a picture of the kids while they're doing that cute thing, rather than two seconds later when they've stopped.

Are you going to play with the water proofing? (I'd be so nervous doing that!)
Annirowe
Level 5: Eagle Eye

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

Hi there Aegnor...

 

In response to the camera, The dedicated Camera button is a really handy feature.. Having kids myself we know there is only a split second before you miss the opportunity. As long as you know the orientation of the phone in your pocket (which can be hard as the front and back feel almost exactly the same), then you can already be holding the button down as you whip the phone out of your pocket, and it will be ready to shoot. It takes about 1 - 2 seconds from the moment you hold the button to teh time the phone is awake and ready to capture. 

 

As for the water proofing, As I said earlier, Yes its waterproof, and I will try it in the pool hopefully over the weekend, but in the shower I had issues as the screen associated water droplets as finger presses. 

bill0014
Level 5: Eagle Eye

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

That's to be expected from a capacitive touchscreen, because without special treatment, it cannot tell the difference between water and your finger as both conducts electricty. That is why sony includes a physical shutter button that allows you to capture footage under water. What I'd like to see is some night time shots, because the Z3 has such a high megapixel count, which means the pixels are very dense, thus limiting the size of each indivudual pixel. With good lighting during the day it works a charm, but the smaller pixels may result bad night time shots. 

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Annirowe
Level 5: Eagle Eye

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

@bill0014 here you go... Just one shot I took.. It was of the Xmas Tree last night.. So it was probably a bit of a struggle (low light, bright lights) but you can definately see the noise in the darker areas. 

 

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As for the screen in water.. A physical button is fine, but the water still activates onscreen functions when the water touches.. You cant turn off the screen as you have no physical viewfinder. So the shutter button gets activated.. it switches apps etc etc..

 

Again let me try it fully submerged.. maybe then the screen  will disable because it senses full water contact. 

bill0014
Level 5: Eagle Eye

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

thats right. If the screen is completely submerged then the touchscreen will not respond at all, no "ghost touches" if you will. So if you leave the phone in the viewfinder then it should stay there and you can use the physical shutter button and shoot under water. btw, what is the ISO setting and the shutter speed for the shot? maybe 1600 at 1/4 of a second?

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Annirowe
Level 5: Eagle Eye

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

As it turns out the only way to completely lock the screen under water is to hold the shutter button down half way as if focussing, before submerging.. If your not doing that then the moment the water touches the screen it potentially starts taking photos, changing settings, even opening Notifications.

 

 

Also @bill0014 the image details were as follows: ISO: 1600, f/2.0 Exposure 1/8

 

Here is one pic from my crazy son underwater Smiley Wink

 

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bill0014
Level 5: Eagle Eye

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

ah, I see. It seems underwater photography still isn't quite there yet. this is a more broad and i guess subjective question, what is your opinion/thoughts on Sony's strategy of releasing flagship phones? Their current cycle is 6 months, meaning that every 6 month a new flagship is announced. The Z3 is marginally better than the Z2 released earlier this year,, would you recommend others to look at a z2 to save money or spend a bit more and get the z3?

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Level 23: Superhero

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

I can certainly confirm that the screen goes a little bit haywire with the smallest droplets of water. One thing that would be great would be a 'water' mode where it disabled the touch screen for a set period of time, allowing only shutter control via the dedicated button.

On the screen. Quite frankly it's beautiful. There have been some comments regarding it having a lower resolution than other phones being released at the moment, however you don't notice. I feel the screen is just as good to look at as my iPhone5 Retina display. Colours are bright and vivid and it really is a pleasure to look at and use in this regard. It also works reasonably well outdoors without any brightness adjustment for me, though I've yet to find a phone which seems to respond to light changes as well as the iPhone.

Now onto how it feels in the hand. For me, it is a little big and certainly not a one hand device. You do lose a small amount of the quoted screen size to the Android virtual buttons in some cases, however with apps and games that go fullscreen it has a 'drag from the top' to overlay the buttons so you don't always lose that screen real-estate.

The biggest downside is that the glass appears to be coated with some magically enhanced version of teflon. I am forever catching this thing as it slides of seemingly flat surfaces. It turns any surface into an air hockey table! I'm wondering if the video that Tony Hawk did that had a fake hoverboard in fact had Z3's strapped to the underside! If you are going to buy this phone, get a cover of some sort or it will end in tears!

I've found multi-tasking on the Z3 to be fantastic. The dedicated button makes it quick and easy to switch between open apps, close them one at a time with a simple swipe, or close them all with a single push. I haven't found that it has to reload a lot when switching between apps like an iPhone will do if you go between more than 2 or 3 different apps, which can be a boon.

On it's bluetooth performance, it seems to be a little weird. My iPhone 5 paired quickly and easily with my Pioneer car stereo. The songs names etc and control work with an issue. With the Z3 it took me almost 15 minutes of mucking around just to get it to pair and the track details etc are never correct. There are times when I get in the car and it simply won't play through bluetooth, even though it assures me it's paired properly. I have to use the 'throw' feature of the phone to get it to send the music output to the head unit rather than through the built-in speakers.

Now onto the in-built speakers. During normal use they are quite good, especially when you consider they have to go through a waterproof membrane. Having them spaced apart at either end of the device, and front facing, is great. It gives a slightly wider soundscape and directs the sound to you rather than out of the bottom of the device. If however you are planning on listening to music in the shower, be aware that the tiniest amount of water causes the speakers to instantly drop in volume and you'll be there trying to blow out the water droplets from the speaker ports.

@bill0014- with regards to whether someone should just get a Z2 instead, unfortunately I have never used a Z2, nor really an Android device before the Z3. That being said I will be putting my iPhone5 on eBay shortly. With the Z3 being able to be picked up on a plan, or for around $660 outright I think it's a great purchase and people wouldn't be disappointed.

 

Onto battery life. After a full day of use which would see my iPhone throwing up 10% battery warnings, I'm seeing around 50% on the Z3. So it's certainly a significant increase in battery life, however I think it would be dangerous to try and get two full days use out of it. I think it's still a charge every night at home situation, however you can know that if you are at work during the day and heading for a long night out after, that the Z3 won't have you hunting for apower socket.

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Annirowe
Level 5: Eagle Eye

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

I have to laugh at @Kalak in reference to his teflon coated screen comment! 

 

There is seriously no kidding when he talks about the hoverboard.. It really has you thinking that the phone is elevated microns above the desk surface!

 

My mouse has more friction than this phone does! 

Mickb83
Level 10: Junior Detective

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

On my Z2 there is a "water" mode of sorts.

 

When you press the soft button that opens the current open applications there is what Sony calls "Small Apps" below the close all button. You can pre-configure these to be different apps such as timers, calculator etc. There is also one called "Touch Block", I would assume this would be on the Z3 as well as the Z2.

 

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This gives you the option to lock the screen from being touched whilst still being on, the warning it gives you the following warning before the first use it even refers to using it in instances when the screen may get wet:-

 

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Annirowe
Level 5: Eagle Eye

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

And there you go!

Thanks for that! Would make it a lot easier now!
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Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

hey @Annirowe and @Kalak  a question from our Twitter community for you:

 

don’t you find it a bit too big to be practical?

 

Putting my 10cents in, I did find it big as I'm used to a smaller phone. I would opt for the compact if I was going to commit to buying a Z3.

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Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

@katroberts

I wouldn't say it's too big to be practical. Coming from a smaller iPhone 5 it did take a couple of days to get used to the size, it felt like I was holding my iPad up to my face every time I made a call. It is also a little large when picking it up from top to bottom (which is how I normally grab my phone off the table - when it hasn't already made it's way to the floor Smiley Wink ) After a couple of days of use though I've quickly adjusted to it and find the larger screen a real advantage.

It also fits fine in the front pocket of my jeans/shorts and side pocket of my cargos. It still sits nicely in the slot under my stereo in the car.

For those with smaller hands the Compact would probably be more suitable though as you say. It is a very large phone.
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Tech-nut
Level 2: Rookie

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

@Kalak try adding your songs to a playlist for Bluetooth streaming to your car, I found this worked when streaming to mylink from nexus 5.

Has anyone tried a 4k video yet, would like to know what size file for a one minute video?

I would love to know if either of you would consider staying with android once the trial is over or will you be looking forward to returning to your iPhone?

Both you and @Annirowe are doing a great job!
Bee_Sting
Level 1: Cadet

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

Please test this phone going through rain whilst secured to the handlebars of a motorcycle. After talking to so many riders there is an increasing trend to using phone on bike for data collection with apps, navigation and music.
Level 23: Superhero

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

@Tech-nut I use Spotify for my music so don't really have any flexibility in that regard.

I just did a test. A 60 second video recorded in 4K took 403.3MB on my SD card. It does warn to use either internal memory or a minimum class 10 card and also warns that at any point the device may overheat and shut down.

With regards to staying with Android, or the Z3 in particular, I can say that I won't be changing back to my iPhone, mainly because about 30 minutes ago it was sold and picked up Smiley Happy
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Level 23: Superhero

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

@Bee_Sting - Sadly for me your request falls outside what I'm able to do not owning a motorbike. I can say though that the GPS appears to lock on quite quickly when using the provided Navigon app.
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Aegnor
Level 5: Eagle Eye

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

Great work by both reviewers. Really good insights.

Couple more questions :

What is the music player like? Being Sony, you'd kinda hope they would be bringing some class leading features here.

And what is the user interface experience like, having had a bit of time to get used to it? Intuitive? Or fiddly/counter-intuitive?
Annirowe
Level 5: Eagle Eye

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

@Aegnor With regards to the music player, I tried the walkman app but I wasnt a fan.. I switched to Google Play and have been using that since. I liked the fact I could easily upload my itunes library to Google to stream on the phone (something that I do with iTunes in the cloud). Its not as efficent in my view as the Music app on the iPhone but its probably just something im used to. As for Sony bringing "World Class Features".. My opinion is I need an app that can play music... As quickly and efficently as possible.. The more overheads the more messy it gets.

 

I still find it hard to accept the Android interface.. I want to.. I honestly am trying to stay non judgemental .. But im finding it extremely difficult.. There may be a lot of features, and some which are pretty cool and handy.. But trying to get to them easily or intuitivly.. I would say no.. And its Android greatest failure.. Trying to pack too many features into it.. 

 

Maybe Android 5.0 will be a lot cleaner, but right now its not working for me.. 

 

Im actually finding myself using the phone less than I did with my iPhone... Partly because not quite all my apps are on this, but mainly because its more effort on Android.. 

 

In my opinion of course! 

 

In response to the Twitter question.. Its definately different.. If you thought you stressed about dropping your phone before.. get ready for a whole new level of Drop Stress.... The issue with this phone is not only finding the right spot to balance the phone, but also trying to deal with how slippery this phone is! If your going to buy this phone.. grab yourself a rubber backed cover to create some friction. 

 

Will I switch back to iPhone? Definately..  This isnt to say Sony has made a bad handset... Quite the opposite actually.. Apart for how slippery it is, I feel its quite good quality.. Its nice to look at.. Its a nice size.. But that software just isnt the quality I expect and that Im used to. 

 

Over the next couple of days I will test the Sony off against the iPhone 6+ including camera quality. We will see how they stack up!

 

beetle84
Level 15: Special Agent

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

@katroberts

Why did you select two iphone users?
Its good for a laugh, as one doesnt like the z3 much, the other loves it so much they sold their iphone.
beetle84
Level 15: Special Agent

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

@Annirowe

How did the comparison go? Im keen to see how fast the z3 was in general use/ loading times for apps/ startup time compared to the 6+.
Also, how is 'too many features' androids greatest failure? I see it as androids drawcard, that and the customisation/openness of the software.







beetle84
Level 15: Special Agent

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

@Annirowe
Any chance of some more reviewing?
@Kalak
Do i have to go to whirlpool for your reviews?
Telstra (Retired)
Telstra (Retired)

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

Hey @beetle84 I chose them for their community contribution and enthusiasm. Are you an android or apple man?

 

@Kalak and @Annirowe , loving your thoughts so far. would love to see some pics on your z3 and your usual phones to compare and contrast.

 

 

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beetle84
Level 15: Special Agent

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

Hey @katroberts, im an android user, i found my last iphone (4s) pretty crap, and i dislike apples 'same phone for 10 years in a different looking frame' business strategy.
Level 23: Superhero

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

@beetle84

If you scroll up you'll see some quite in-depth posts by myself. As I am heading away for a family holiday tomorrow the past few days have been filled with finishing up work tasks, packing and confirming bookings. Unfortunately I haven't really had a spare moment to myself. Once I arrive tomorrow though I'll put up more thoughts, and pictures.

If you have a specific question, then please feel free to ask it and I'll do my best to answer it.

 

Some posts that may interest you:

http://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au/t5/Mobile-Insider-Product-Reviews/Mobile-Insider-Sony-Xperia-Z3-r...

http://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au/t5/Mobile-Insider-Product-Reviews/Mobile-Insider-Sony-Xperia-Z3-r...

http://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au/t5/Mobile-Insider-Product-Reviews/Mobile-Insider-Sony-Xperia-Z3-r...

http://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au/t5/Mobile-Insider-Product-Reviews/Mobile-Insider-Sony-Xperia-Z3-r...

 

With regards to comments by @Annirowe I do have to agree with some of them. Android isn't as intuitive as iOS. Settings for apps, and the OS itself can be difficult to track down. It's also more difficult to uninstall apps for example, coming from Long-Press, X in iOS.

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Aegnor
Level 5: Eagle Eye

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

It can be irritating in SOME android handsets when they install a lot of bloatware that doesn't add anything to your experience, or when the handset maker loads a heap of apps that duplicate the basic Android apps. i'm an Android convert, but ioS still for me has the advantage in simple intuitive use in several respects.
Annirowe
Level 5: Eagle Eye

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

@beetle84 sorry mate. No point making comments without a fair comparison. So just giving it time to settle in with both at the same time.

I will put some comparison pics up later, but until then I will make some comments on the battery life.

Unplugging the Sony at 6am, I still had about 20% left at about 10pm that night. I never used any of the power saving features because it starts shutting network features etc down, and to be honest I buy these phones for that sort of stuff.

I am a heavy user. My phone is always on and always being used be it for work or pleasure. My iPhone 5 would be at about 30% by lunchtime during the week. They Sony was probably around 90%. Comparing this to the iPhone 6+ the Sony definitely wins. I'm at about 80% at the same time.

I have to say, I think apples failure here is with iMessage. If I didn't use it im sure the battery would be up with the Sony.

I will try and record a start up vid tonight as well, but given Telstra has some extra branding on the Sony, that may slow it down a bit more.

Another comment against the Sony.... The keyboard. Maybe it's just me but the spell check was doing my head in. It kept giving me the wrong words. I would get full stops in the middle of everything. I'm not sure what it as but I'm sitting here typing this on the iPhone and I can blindly type and almost get it perfect. I had to concentrate too much with the Sony. But I feel that's an android issue. Not the phone.

beetle84
Level 15: Special Agent

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

@Annirowe

The keyboard is a sony issue as its their own, not googles.
Try downloading swiftkey keyboard or google keyboard from the playstore.
I have a z2 and i have the lg g3 keyboard (rooted devices only) as its height adjustable. My pudgy fingers ALWAYS hit the wrong keys with the sony one, so being able to adjust the height is awesome because it makes the keys so much larger.
As for the power saving features, you can choose to keep mobile data and wifi on and only close background apps.
Annirowe
Level 5: Eagle Eye

Re: Mobile Insider - Sony Xperia Z3 review

And here in lies the problem. Why should I have to spend soooo much time trying to find something that works for me? Can't I just turn it on and have the basics just work well?

When this review period is up I will look into how to put vanilla android 5 and start from scratch. Clear away all the after market stuff and just go back to basics on it.

Appreciate all your suggestions. Remember these are just my opinions and the way I feel about these devices. I am trying my hardest to accept the device, and as I said earlier. The hardware is pretty good for most parts. But yeah. That software. Hmmm. And reading about android 5, it seems I'm maybe not the only one.

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